I'm sorry as can be PC . . . to carry that right through and yet still be able to shine as your brother did is something to be proud of . . . be proud my friend . . . be proud
Luvonyall
Murray Smith
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The Effects of JW Child Abuse into Adulthood
by PublishingCult inmy two oldest brothers, jim and ron, were coerced into baptism when they were but 10 and 11 years old.. .
they were indoctrinated heavily, of course, and they tried to toe the line and be good little jw boys as best two unruly fatherless boys could.
the nature of a boy won out and they both got into some mischief about a year later.
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Translating the NWT in the Shadows
by JuanMiguel innote: the following is not meant to be construed as a recommendation but to demonstrate the sharp contrast between any authentic bible translation and the new world translation.
for those of us who participate and or read the threads on this board, i understand and appreciate that all here have different views on religion, the existence of god, and of the catholic church.
i believe each individuals convictions should be treated with the utmost respect and dignity.
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Murray Smith
Great post JM . . . and what followed has been revealing . . . none more so than JV2's post on page 1 . . . heresay maybe . . . but sounding like a very likely "what went on in the shadows" account
Luvonyall
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Is Satan actually a liar?
by Scooby-Doo inyou positively will not die.
for god knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like god, knowing good and bad.".
did satan actually lie to eve?
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Murray Smith
From the argument you raise I would have to conclude that the only way of knowing for sure if Satan was lying intentionally would be to know Satans mind at the time . . .
Either way . . . his record is no more inglorious than WTBTS
Luvonyall
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Elder's Manual Question
by satinka inmy youngest brother is the family jw patriarch, and an elder, maybe even the po in a small northern town.
in an email i asked him if he ever hears from my kids.
i happen to know he lives in the same small town as my son, who might very well be an elder, too...by now.
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Murray Smith
Satinka
All the research won't be wasted . . . bookmarked for future ref
Mr Satinka sounds like all you need . . . I like him already
The day may still come when a family member also sees those creeps for what they are . . . here's hoping
Luvonyall
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Are women more spiritual then men?
by jam inbefore you women jump all over me, this is just a observation.. first of all at least in this country women out number men in religion,.
across the board,(jw,s,baptist, catholic etc.
) you walk in any church.
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Murray Smith
To men, women are a dangerous necessity. Unenlightened men, that is.
To women, men are a dangerous necessity. Unenlightened women, that is.
Terry . . . I'm not being flippant . . . many of the points you make are valid. I just don't believe the social inequalities that befall individuals, groups of individuals, and society as a whole, that manifest themselves as "a male dominated power structure" can be analysed using a gender-based premise, nor are they exclusively the result of the role religion plays . . . I think it is more complex than that. But as I said . . . you make several valid points
Luvonyall
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Wt Org Like an Animal Pack
by Satanus inobserving how stranglers and those who get ahead of the wt org are left or get ostricised reminded me of similar dynamics in some animal societies, lions, for instance.
lions and housecats are the only felines that form groups.
pack members who get sick or injured and become unable to keep up w the pride are left behind.
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Murray Smith
While Spade's quoting scripture on the true "path of righteousness" . . . try this one . . .
" . . . every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit" Matt 7;17 (NWT)
Multiple studies have shown JW's 4 times more likely to suicide and 16 times more likely to develop permanent mental illness. (figures are considered conservative on account of cult members reluctance to seek mainstream medical assistance)
The prosecution rests.
Luvonyall
PS - sorry bout the blank posts . . . I'm gettin a few error messages
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Wt Org Like an Animal Pack
by Satanus inobserving how stranglers and those who get ahead of the wt org are left or get ostricised reminded me of similar dynamics in some animal societies, lions, for instance.
lions and housecats are the only felines that form groups.
pack members who get sick or injured and become unable to keep up w the pride are left behind.
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Wt Org Like an Animal Pack
by Satanus inobserving how stranglers and those who get ahead of the wt org are left or get ostricised reminded me of similar dynamics in some animal societies, lions, for instance.
lions and housecats are the only felines that form groups.
pack members who get sick or injured and become unable to keep up w the pride are left behind.
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Wt Org Like an Animal Pack
by Satanus inobserving how stranglers and those who get ahead of the wt org are left or get ostricised reminded me of similar dynamics in some animal societies, lions, for instance.
lions and housecats are the only felines that form groups.
pack members who get sick or injured and become unable to keep up w the pride are left behind.
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Murray Smith
Spade . . . exactly! . . . thank you for your support!
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Murray Smith
That picture looks distinctly familiar BS . . . a naturally-occurring geological formation I believe . . . I'm sure I have also seen a wider shot of the same feature showing a similar smaller structure nearby . . . your point for posting it no doubt? . . . unless Noah owned a fleet perhaps